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Hi Ignatius, Guido Preparata noted similarly with respect to the creation of Israel, arguing it was a globohomo creation for ulterior motives much as South Korea, Taiwan and Pakistan were. He wrote:

"To isolate each conflict, the targeted territorial portion had to be severed from its adjacent district, and bled white by prolonged strife waged in the name of political, religious, or ethnic diversity. Thus the Anglo-Americans have always acted: in Europe by spinning everybody against Germany (1904-45); in the Near East, by jamming Israel in the heart of the Arab world (1917-present); in the Far East, by planting thorns in the side of China: Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan (1950-present); in Central Asia by destabilizing the entire region intro tribal warfare with the help of Pakistan to prevent the Caspian seaboard from gravitating into the Russian sphere of influence.

Most importantly, in such trying games of conquest, results might never be expected to take shape quickly, but might take a matter of weeks, months or even decades. Imperial strategems are protracted affairs. The captains of world aggression measure their achievements, or failures, on a timescale whose unit is the generation.”

Now, whites and Christians are forbidden from pursuing their group interests directly and have been for generations (learned helplessness) so they try to further their interests via supporting proxies - which is a poor strategy and doesn’t work. I see the inclination toward "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" among some on the dissident right, but Europe is being overrun by and will be conquered by Islam within a few more generations based on immigration and fertility trends. Why support anyone in this Middle Eastern conflict?

Personally, I would like to see an end to pax Americana and a total withdraw from the world back into autarky and isolationism, much as 90% of Americans believed in the run-up both to World War 1 and World War 2. Let the world fend for itself; there is no (and there has never been) moral authority for invading and inviting the world.

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Thank you Neo for your astute and insightful commentary, as always. I submit that my point isn’t a new one: I’m just hoping that this will trigger a discussion in light of recent events at the Daily Wire.

I think an end to Pax Americana will happen whether we like it or not.

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“He kept us out of war” used to be a winning slogan in America. It should be again but the ghouls won't allow it. The promise of what America was supposed to be was smothered in its crib.

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Interesting article, but I would say keep this in mind, if Israel should ever appear to be going out, Israel will authorize nuclear strikes, and I doubt those strikes will only be targeted upon Middle Eastern enemies.

I could easily imagine that the US Navy would meet a Dolphin class sub in the Atlantic, escort it to striking range of the Eastern seaboard and then have it dive, escape and launch multiple missiles

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I just don’t like “Zionists”.

That should be the only argument a (normal) man needs to give.

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Really disagree. And people in the area have been kicking each other out for thousands and thousands of years, yet no other group but the Hebrews has a good claim.

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They don’t have a good claim. I address that in this article.

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I disagree with your argument entirely but I don't have the time nor the inclination to argue about it. I'll let someone else do that. If you are more about what you hate than what you love, there is a problem. My last word.

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Why did you even comment in the first place

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It's amazing how much vitriol one can illicit just by disagreeing. That tells me a lot.

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Touch grass

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Don't I have a right to an opinion? And to make it clear that a great deal of people disagree with.

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Found the Gamma.

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You don’t “address this in the article”. You simply make facile and unsupportable statements.

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I source all my claims, and you’re free to look into those sources yourself.

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Ashkenazis are Hebrews? You would think they would be darker.

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The war between the West and Soviet Communism lasted from 1917 until 1990, and the front-line of that war was Poland.The war between Islam and Christendom has been going on since 700, and the current front-line of that conflict is Israel. Islam cannot permit Jews to live in Israel but it also cannot permit infidel to live anywhere. The civilians of London and Berlin were collateral damage in WW2, and the people of Israel and Gaza are collateral damage in this war. Soon enough, we will be fighting the Jihadi in our cities. Already they are marching through our streets demanding the end of Israel.

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Muslims are not friends of Christians, it’s true, but the two groups can ally against common enemies like LGBT activists and Zionists. See here: https://redpillhistory.substack.com/p/right-wing-dissidents-can-win-in

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If Muslim are so horrible why are elite Ashkenazis obsessed with flooding them into white countries?

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Interesting article. Thanks for posting. I fill in a LOT of history in this piece: https://sulla5.substack.com/p/usa-israel-palestine-part-i-orientations?r=2m5i72

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Please do continue your out-of-a-cereal-box philosophy course. It is very entertaining.

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Challenge accepted. 🙂

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Israeli plumbers, truck drivers, and settlers are not zionists (I know, people use that word - doesn’t mean a damn thing anymore). They’re citizens. They don’t have dual citizenship and they’re not going somewhere else just because Hamas attacks. This campaign to describe Jews in Israel as some calculating elite is not going to work. The high status elites and elite wannabes is Israel - sure, complain about them, they’re terrible. But the middle and lower class Israelis? Their aspirations are familiar to me - and the attacks against them are also familiar to me - an evangelical Christian American. I am going to take the side of my natural allies.

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Where did I say that Israeli truck drivers are Zionists? Your statement is strange.

If you’re an evangelical Christian, as you claim, then it makes zero sense why you’d be a Zionist or pro-Israel. Christians traditionally believe that God’s promise to Abraham is no longer for the Jews — it is for the Church.

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You clearly aren’t a Christian.

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You cannot be natural allies to the people who killed Christ. And you could say they didn’t…. Surely this is true. But when you claim the side of those that did…. Well. Look, Christians rarely if ever claimed to have an alliance with Jews from the early hundreds AD until the late 1800s. Then, it wasn’t until post WWII that probably most Christians claimed to see Jews as their allies. Why? Is it because they finally saw the truth of this in scripture? Or because powerful Jews funded Christianpastors who claimed that Jews don’t have to accept Christ in order to be saved?

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Hey turd burglar, you are implying that I do not even know my own thoughts regarding Christianity when you suggest I have been hoodwinked by my pastors. All the early church fathers were Jews - better not be calling yourself a Christian if you’re against the Jews.

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In order for one to understand why that is wrong you have to understand the difference between ethnic Jews and religious rabbinical Judaism. So…. When Jesus railed against the Pharisees he wasn’t condemning people descended of Israel. He was condemning those who followed the “Oral Torah”…. Which were the Pharisees. Well, the Pharisees became Rabbinical Jews especially after the fall of Israel in 70 AD and the destruction of the Temple.

You can call me a turd burger but you should be taking notes. The issue in Christianity has never been who the forefathers of modern Jews were. It has been that they have placed the Talmud above the scriptures and rejected God’s son.

Until you understand that, your understanding of Christianity will be limited at best.

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Now you’re going to lecture me about religious versus ethnic Jews? Excuse me if I am cynical.

Israel is nation, fashioned in a manner similar to the Christian nations of western Europe, especially the United Kingdom. The fact that Israel is to Jews as Bulgaria is to Bulgars matters little to me. What matters greatly is that Israel is a facsimile (though imperfect) of a western nation. The current “Israel is bad; we should side with the Palestinians” chorus is driven by the same desire of gnostics in the first several centuries, the French revolutionaries in 1789, and the Bolsheviks in 1917 - “we have to undermine the current faith so we can replace it with a new one”. And by faith, the choristers mean the culture, which is the living expression of a people’s faith.

This is, first and foremost, the expression of the forever appetite for cult Christianity. “We have special knowledge you don’t have access to yet - trust us.” I don’t trust you - you’re siding with murderous pagans masquerading as monotheists, against people who still practice cultural Christianity, even though they declare themselves as atheists or religious Jews. I’ll take the doubting atheists and non-messianic Jews 10 times out of 10 versus the gullible, try every new cult version of Christianity that comes down the pike crowd (this includes Muslim elites - all cultists IMHO). The former still recognize and reject false prophets and idolatry. The latter never met a false prophet they didn’t love (secretly or openly, er, ahem … Mohammad).

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I get it…. You see some blue haired they/them talking about the “white colonialist settler state” set up as a “Zionist entity” and wonder what the hell these people are even thinking. I am not taking their side. They don’t even understand the geopolitical situation.

The issue however is this: is Israel actually a Western democratic state? If it is one, is it set up as a seperate state from ours? What influence do they exert over the US and other Western countries? Why?

I don’t care whether Israel uses a parliamentary system, or a military dictatorship or a Kingdom or any other governmental system. I don’t care about the ancestry of its inhabitants. I do care that they oppress their Palestinian population, but I don’t wish to do them harm because of it. It is more that how they treat the Palestinians tells me much about how they see others and what they would do to me and my family.

What I see is a nation which interferes in the affairs of everyone else they possibly can. I see a government which uses its diaspora to effect policy in its favor. I see a nation which cynically subverts Christianity in general and manipulates well meaning Christians who just see a poor set upon people being set upon by Islam.

Look, I want ultimately for Israel to stop interfering in the politics of Western nations. Stop taking money from us, and I want their diaspora to either go to Israel or reject Israel and be loyal to their host nations.

But I don’t expect you to get that. If you are like most Zionist Christians (and I know Christian Zionists quite well… have family members who are)…. You would trade your life for Israel because of your beliefs. Well, I can tell you exceptionally few Jews, religiously observant or not, would do the same for you

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You care about oppressed Palestinians? That’s a pretty sick joke, man.

Do you “care” about the Christian Arabs in Lebanon who are in the long process of losing their nation to the cult of Hezbollah? No, obviously you do not.

Do you care about the Arab families that lost a father or grandfather serving in the Jordanian Armed Forces, against the Palestinian factions fighting the Jordanian kingdom during Black September? Another obvious no.

Do you care about the Arab Muslim victims of Hamas’ counterespionage program of extrajudicial killings on the basis of suspicions? Once again, there is no evidence that you care.

Your “care” is not sincere. It’s an intellectual rationalization that permits you to do what you wanted to do from the beginning - blame a compelling scapegoat. You’re only looking to make excuses for your cult-like impulse to give yourself over to a glorious future that’s possible only if we defeat the enemies of your (lower case) god. And your scapegoat is THE JEWS.

And your statement that you want Israel to stop interfering in the politics of western nations and for its constituent Jews to return to their countries of origin. You know what, you probably want Christians to get out of politics in the USA, because we “interfere” with your rational plans - don’t we? This is aimed at Israel today. Tomorrow it will be us dirty, committed Christians in the USA. I am not fooled. You will say, “I am a Christian too.” Really? What is your proof that you are a Christian?

I am attempting to deny my temptation to scapegoat. I don’t hate Muslim Arabs. But I do hate the ideas that permit people to commit the same bloody error over and over again without pause to consider another path forward. If I adopted the ideas of Hamas in my part of the world (Seattle), you would NOT suddenly call me “oppressed” and worthy of revolutionary solidarity. No, you’d call me a supremacist, et cetera, and you would advocate for violent suppression of me. I am not fooled.

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Thanks for your thoughtful comment.

Your claim, as I understand it, is that ‘might is right,’ and I do not subscribe to this, as it’s a Nietzschean position, and not a conservative one.

My fuller response:

The Zionists ‘won’ in a Machiavellian sense because they cunningly manipulated the Great Powers, especially the UK, to their cause. The Rothschild family was especially instrumental in this.

I have no admiration for any of that: it’s simply manipulation of white Christians to support a cause that is not their own.

Nor do I admire people who forcibly eject others from their ancestral land: Jews ejecting Palestinians in early Israel, or migrants ejecting native Europeans from their homelands.

‘Winning’ in and of itself does not imply we should support the winner. The Left has won in the West; they’re the ones in power. Should I therefore support Leftism, or should I strive for better?

As for the claim that Israel has 100s of years of history because of a few settlers, this is just not true, and even if were, Palestinians have millennia-worth of territorial claims. In 1914, only 14% of the population of Palestine was Jewish.

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You know, I’ve also heard that Jews drink the blood of Arab babies.

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You read The Free Press, so you would probably condone it.

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Ceterum autem censeo Gazam esse delendam.

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When we speak of ‘Muslim Arabs,’ we have to be careful:

1. They weren’t a monolithic bloc of backward barbarians, as you suggest. Palestinian Arabs in particular carry more sophistication, as their culture and achievements show — they’re also genetically related to Jews.

2. Many Palestinians are Christian, and continue to be persecuted by Zionists.

3. They still have a stronger claim to traditional nationhood than any Jew. Nobody can deny this, making a conservative case for Israel difficult at best.

As for the claim that one can be an Israeli and a conservative, sure — one cannot choose the circumstances of one’s birth, but one can choose one’s politics. The claim that one can be a Zionist and conservative is contradictory though. That is the point of my article here.

Ultimately we have to be careful not to revert to a ‘might is right’ mentality when discussing these issues. The fact that one side has ‘won’ thus far doesn’t mean I should support them, especially if that side isn’t right-wing.

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I agree that we don’t owe Palestinians anything. My point is that we don’t owe Zionist Jews anything either, and since they’re not right-wing, I should not associate with them.

The modern concept of a nation state is European, and even historically-advanced cultures like the Chinese and Japanese lacked it. When you say there was no ‘Palestinian nation,’ you have to keep this historical context in mind. Many modern postcolonial nations are products of the 20th Century: India, Singapore, Kenya, etc.

The point is that given the history, Palestinians have a stronger claim to statehood than Jews who lack ancestral claim or title to the land.

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I only agree with the last sentence. Also, by your logic, if by some way, hook or crook, the Palestinians win and take over what we now call Israel then they are “right”

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They’re potential allies in the same way that Jordan Peterson is: useful to pushing forward the right-wing cause. After the right takes power, we don’t need them anymore per se.

My article deals with modern Zionism as espoused by Herzl, which has been the only successful Zionism in history. The other varieties of Zionism have largely failed.

No serious genetic scientist or historian disagrees with the claim that Palestinians are closely related to ancient Jews, and that Jews and Palestinians share a common ancestry.

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